diff --git a/fhem/FHEM/55_GDS.pm b/fhem/FHEM/55_GDS.pm
index f0ebfb874..42fc02580 100644
--- a/fhem/FHEM/55_GDS.pm
+++ b/fhem/FHEM/55_GDS.pm
@@ -107,7 +107,9 @@ sub GDS_Define($$$) {
 
 	$dummy = "gds_web_".$name;
 	CommandDefine(undef, $dummy." HTTPSRV ".$name." ".$tempDir." GDS ".$name." Files");
-	$attr{$dummy}{"directoryindex"} = $name.".html";
+	$defs{$dummy}{TEMPORARY} = 1;
+	$attr{$dummy}{directoryindex} = $name.".html";
+	$attr{$dummy}{room} = 'hidden';
 	fillMappingTables($hash);
 	initDropdownLists($hash);
 	createIndexFile($hash);
diff --git a/fhem/contrib/71_LISTENLIVE.pm b/fhem/contrib/71_LISTENLIVE.pm
index a7e9f1502..b252b65cb 100644
--- a/fhem/contrib/71_LISTENLIVE.pm
+++ b/fhem/contrib/71_LISTENLIVE.pm
@@ -212,6 +212,7 @@ sub LISTENLIVE_Define($$) {
 				Log3($name, 3, "LISTENLIVE $name PRESENCE $pres_name created.");
 				$defs{$pres_name}{TEMPORARY} = 1;
 				$attr{$pres_name}{verbose} = 2;
+				$attr{$pres}{room} = 'hidden';
 			}
 		} else {
 			Log3($name, 3, "LISTENLIVE $name PRESENCE pres_$name found.");